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Bill Gates Talks About Vaccines to Reduce World Population

Politics / Social Issues Mar 04, 2010 - 05:49 AM GMT

By: F_William_Engdahl

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Best Financial Markets Analysis ArticleMicrosoft founder and one of the world’s wealthiest men, Bill Gates, projects an image of a benign philanthropist using his billions via his (tax exempt) Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, to tackle diseases, solve food shortages in Africa and alleviate poverty. In a recent conference in California, Gates reveals a less public agenda of his philanthropy—population reduction, otherwise known as eugenics.


Gates made his remarks to the invitation-only Long Beach, California TED2010 Conference, in a speech titled, “Innovating to Zero!.” Along with the scientifically absurd proposition of reducing manmade CO2 emissions worldwide to zero by 2050, approximately four and a half minutes into the talk, Gates declares, "First we got population. The world today has 6.8 billion people. That's headed up to about 9 billion. Now if we do a really great job on new vaccines, health care, reproductive health services, we lower that by perhaps 10 or 15 percent." (author’s emphasis).

In plain English, one of the most powerful men in the world states clearly that he expects vaccines to be used to reduce population growth. When Bill Gates speaks about vaccines, he speaks with authority. In January 2010 at the elite Davos World Economic Forum, Gates announced his foundation would give $10 billion (circa €7.5 billion) over the next decade to develop and deliver new vaccines to children in the developing world.

The primary focus of his multi-billion dollar Gates Foundation is vaccinations, especially in Africa and other underdeveloped countries. Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation is a founding member of the GAVI Alliance (Global Alliance for Vaccinations and Immunization) in partnership with the World Bank, WHO and the vaccine industry. The goal of GAVI is to vaccinate every newborn child in the developing world.

Now that sounds like noble philanthropic work. The problem is that the vaccine industry has been repeatedly caught dumping dangerous—meaning unsafe because untested or proven harmful—vaccines onto unwitting Third World populations when they cannot get rid of the vaccines in the West. Some organizations have suggested that the true aim of the vaccinations is to make people sicker and even more susceptible to disease and premature death.

Dumping toxins on the Third World

In the aftermath of the most recent unnecessary Pandemic declaration of a global H1N1 swine flu emergency, industrial countries were left sitting on hundreds of millions of doses of untested vaccines. They decided to get rid of the embarrassing leftover drugs by handing them over to the WHO which in turn plans to dump them for free on select poor countries. France has given 91 million of the 94 million doses the Sarkozy government bought from the pharma giants; Britain gave 55 million of its 60 million doses. The story for Germany and Norway is similar.

As Dr. Thomas Jefferson, an epidemiologist with the Cochrane Research Center in Rome noted, “Why do they give the vaccines to the developing countries at all? The pandemic has been called off in most parts of the world. The greatest threat in poor countries right now is heart and circulatory diseases while the virus figures at the bottom of the list. What is the medical reason for donating 180 million doses?” As well, flu is a minor problem in countries with abundant sunshine, and it turned out that the feared H1N1 Pandemic “new great plague” was the mildest flu on record.

The pharmaceutical vaccine makers do not speak about the enormous health damage from infant vaccination including autism and numerous neuro-muscular deformities that have been traced back to the toxic adjuvants and preservatives used in most vaccines. Many vaccines, especially multi-dose vaccines that are made more cheaply for sale to the Third World, contain something called Thimerosal (Thiomersol in the EU), a compound (sodium ethylmercurithiosalicylate), containing some 50% mercury, used as a preservative.

In July 1999 the US’ National Vaccine Information Center declared in a press release that, "The cumulative effects of ingesting mercury can cause brain damage." The same month, the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) alerted the public about the possible health effects associated with thimerosal-containing vaccines. They strongly recommended that thimerosal be removed from vaccines as soon as possible. Under the directive of the FDA Modernization Act of 1997, the Food and Drug Administration also determined that infants who received several thimerosal-containing vaccines may be receiving mercury exposure over and above the recommended federal guidelines.

A new form of eugenics?

Gates’ interest in inducing population reduction among black and other minority populations is not new unfortunately. As I document in my book, Seeds of Destruction, since the 1920’s the Rockefeller Foundation had funded the eugenics research in Germany through the Kaiser-Wilhelm Institutes in Berlin and Munich, including well into the Third Reich. They praised the forced sterilization of people by Hirtler Germany, and the Nazi ideas on race “purity.” It was John D. Rockefeller III, a life-long advocate of eugenics, who used his “tax free” foundation money to initiate the population reduction neo-Malthusian movement through his private Population Council in New York beginning in the 1950’s.

The idea of using vaccines to covertly reduce births in the Third World is also not new. Bill Gates’ good friend, David Rockefeller and his Rockefeller Foundation were involved as early as 1972 in a major project together with WHO and others to perfect another “new vaccine.”

The results of the WHO-Rockefeller project were put into mass application on human guinea pigs in the early 1990's. The WHO oversaw massive vaccination campaigns against tetanus in Nicaragua, Mexico and the Philippines. Comite Pro Vida de Mexico, a Roman Catholic lay organization, became suspicious of the motives behind the WHO program and decided to test numerous vials of the vaccine and found them to contain human Chorionic Gonadotrophin, or hCG. That was a curious component for a vaccine designed to protect people against lock-jaw arising from infection with rusty nail wounds or other contact with certain bacteria found in soil. The tetanus disease was indeed, also rather rare. It was also curious because hCG was a natural hormone needed to maintain a pregnancy. However, when combined with a tetanus toxoid carrier, it stimulated formation of antibodies against hCG, rendering a woman incapable of maintaining a pregnancy, a form of concealed abortion. Similar reports of vaccines laced with hCG hormones came from the Philippines and Nicaragua.

Gates’ ‘Gene Revolution in Africa’

The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, along with David Rockefeller’s Rockefeller Foundation, the creators of the GMO biotechnology, are also financing a project called The Alliance for a Green Revolution in Africa (AGRA) headed by former UN chief, Kofi Annan. Accepting the role as AGRA head in June 2007 Annan expressed his “gratitude to the Rockefeller Foundation, the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, and all others who support our African campaign.” The AGRA board is dominated by people from both the Gates’ and Rockefeller foundations.

Monsanto, DuPont, Dow, Syngenta and other major GMO agribusiness giants are reported at the heart of AGRA, using it as a back-door to spread their patented GMO seeds across Africa under the deceptive label, ‘bio-technology,’ a euphemism for genetically engineered patented seeds. The person from the Gates Foundation responsible for its work with AGRA is Dr. Robert Horsch, a 25-year Monsanto GMO veteran who was on the team that developed Monsanto’s RoundUp Ready GMO technologies. His job is reportedly to use Gates’ money to introduce GMO into Africa.

To date South Africa is the only African country permitting legal planting of GMO crops. In 2003 Burkina Faso authorized GMO trials. In 2005 Kofi Annan’s Ghana drafted bio-safety legislation and key officials expressed their intentions to pursue research into GMO crops. AGRA is being used to create networks of “agro-dealers” across Africa, at first with no mention of GMO seeds or herbicides, in order to have the infrastructure in place to massively introduce GMO.

GMO, glyphosate and population reduction

GMO crops have never been proven safe for human or animal consumption. Moreover, they are inherently genetically ‘unstable’ as they are an unnatural product of introducing a foreign bacteria such as Bacillus Thuringiensis (Bt) or other material into the DNA of a given seed to change its traits. Perhaps equally dangerous are the ‘paired’ chemical herbicides sold as a mandatory part of a GMO contract, such as Monsanto’s Roundup, the most widely used such herbicide in the world. It contains highly toxic glyphosate compounds that have been independently tested and proven to exist in toxic concentrations in GMO applications far above that safe for humans or animals. Tests show that tiny amounts of glyphosate compounds would do damage to a human umbilical, embryonic and placental cells in a pregnant woman drinking the ground water near a GMO field.

One long-standing project of the US Government has been to perfect a genetically-modified variety of corn, the diet staple in Mexico and many other Latin American countries. The corn has been field tested in tests financed by the US Department of Agriculture along with a small California bio-tech company named Epicyte. Announcing his success at a 2001 press conference, the president of Epicyte, Mitch Hein, pointing to his GMO corn plants, announced, “We have a hothouse filled with corn plants that make anti-sperm antibodies.”

Hein explained that they had  taken antibodies from women with a rare condition known as immune infertility, isolated the genes that regulated the manufacture of those infertility antibodies, and, using genetic engineering techniques, had inserted the genes into ordinary corn seeds used to produce corn plants. In this manner, in reality they produced a concealed contraceptive embedded in corn meant for human consumption. “Essentially, the antibodies are attracted to surface receptors on the sperm,” said Hein. “They latch on and make each sperm so heavy it cannot move forward. It just shakes about as if it was doing the lambada.” Hein claimed it was a possible solution to world “over-population.” The moral and ethical issues of feeding it to humans in Third World poor countries without their knowing it countries he left out of his remarks. 

Spermicides hidden in GMO corn provided to starving Third World populations through the generosity of the Gates’ foundation, Rockefeller Foundation and Kofi Annan’s AGRA or vaccines that contain undisclosed sterilization agents are just two documented cases of using vaccines or GMO seeds to “reduce population.”

And the ‘Good Club’

Gates’ TED2010 speech on zero emissions and population reduction is consistent with a report that appeared in New York City’s ethnic media, Irish.Central.com in May 2009. According to the report, a secret meeting took place on May 5, 2009 at the home of Sir Paul Nurse, President of Rockefeller University, among some of the wealthiest people in America. Investment guru Warren Buffett who in 2006 decided to pool his $30 billion Buffett Foundation into the Gates foundation to create the world’s largest private foundation with some $60 billions of tax-free dollars was present. Banker David Rockefeller was the host.

The exclusive letter of invitation was signed by Gates, Rockefeller and Buffett. They decided to call themselves the “Good Club.” Also present was media czar Ted Turner, billionaire founder of CNN who stated in a 1996 interview for the Audubon nature magazine, where he said that a 95% reduction of world population to between 225-300 million would be “ideal.” In a 2008 interview at Philadelphia’s Temple University, Turner fine-tuned the number to 2 billion, a cut of more than 70% from today’s population. Even less elegantly than Gates, Turner stated, “we have too many people. That’s why we have global warming. We need less people using less stuff (sic).”

Others attending this first meeting of the Good Club reportedly were: Eli Broad real estate billionaire, New York’s billionaire Mayor Michael Bloomberg and Wall Street billionaire and Council on Foreign Relations former head, Peter G. Peterson.

In addition, Julian H. Robertson, Jr., hedge-fund billionaire who worked with Soros attacking the currencies of Thailand, Indonesia, South Korea and the Asian Tigen economies, precipitating the 1997-98 Asia Crisis. Also present at the first session of the Good Club was Patty Stonesifer, former chief executive of the Gates foundation, and John Morgridge of Cisco Systems. The group represented a combined fortune of more than $125 billion.

According to reports apparently leaked by one of the attendees, the meeting was held in response to the global economic downturn and the numerous health and environmental crises that are plaguing the globe.

But the central theme and purpose of the secret Good Club meeting of the plutocrats was the priority concern posed by Bill Gates, namely, how to advance more effectively their agenda of birth control and global population reduction. In the talks a consensus reportedly emerged that they would “back a strategy in which population growth would be tackled as a potentially disastrous environmental, social and industrial threat.”

Global Eugenics agenda

Gates and Buffett are major funders of global population reduction programs, as is Turner, whose UN Foundation was created to funnel $1 billion of his tax-free stock option earnings in AOL-Time-Warner into various birth reduction programs in the developing world. The programs in Africa and elsewhere are masked as philanthropy and providing health services for poor Africans. In reality they involve involuntary population sterilization via vaccination and other medicines that make women of child-bearing age infertile. The Gates Foundation, where Buffett deposited the bulk of his wealth two years ago, is also backing introduction of GMO seeds into Africa under the cloak of the Kofi Annan-led ‘Second Green Revolution’ in Africa. The introduction of GMO patented seeds in Africa to date has met with enormous indigenous resistance.

Health experts point out that were the intent of Gates really to improve the health and well-being of black Africans, the same hundreds of millions of dollars the Gates Foundation has invested in untested and unsafe vaccines could be used in providing minimal sanitary water and sewage systems. Vaccinating a child who then goes to drink feces-polluted river water is hardly healthy in any respect. But of course cleaning up the water and sewage systems of Africa would revolutionize the health conditions of the Continent.

Gates’ TED2010 comments about having new vaccines to reduce global population were obviously no off-the-cuff remark. For those who doubt, the presentation Gates made at the TED2009 annual gathering said almost exactly the same thing about reducing population to cut global warming. For the mighty and powerful

Bill Gates, “Innovating to Zero!, speech to the TED2010 annual conference, Long Beach, California, February 18, 2010, accessed in http://www.ted.com/talks/bill_gates.html.

Telegraph.co.uk, Bill Gates makes $10 billion vaccine pledge, London Telegraph, January 29, 2010, accessed in t: www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financetopics/dav...

Louise Voller, Kristian Villesen, WHO Donates Millions of Doses of Surplus Medical Supplies to Developing countries, Danish Information, 22 December 2009, accessed in http://www.theflucase.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2419%3Awhos-swine-flu-jab-donations-to-developing-countries-demarks-information-reports&catid=41%3Ahighlighted-news&Itemid=105&lang=en

One is the Population Research Institute in Washington, http://pop.org/

Louise Voller et al, op. cit.

Ibid.

Noted in Vaccinations and Autism, accessed in http://www.mercurypoisoningnews.com/vacautism.html

F. William Engdahl, Seeds of Destruction: The Hidden Agenda of Genetic Manipulation, Global Research (www.globalresearch.ca), Montreal, 2007, pp. 79-84.

James A. Miller, Are New Vaccines Laced With Birth-Control Drugs?, HLI Reports, Human Life International, Gaithersburg, Maryland; June-July 1995.

Cited in F. William Engdahl, "Doomsday Seed Vault" in the Arctic: Bill Gates, Rockefeller and the GMO giants know something we don’t, Global Research, December 4, 2007, accessed in http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=7529

Mariam Mayet, Africa’s Green Revolution rolls out the Gene Revolution, African Centre for Biosafety, ACB Briefing Paper No. 6/2009, Melville, South Africa, April 2009.

Ibid.

Nora Benachour and Gilles-Eric Seralini, Glyphosate Formulations Induce Apoptosis and Necrosis in Human Umbilical Embryonic, and Placental Cells, Chemical Research in Toxicology Journal, American Chemical Society, 2009, 22 (1), pp 97–105.

Robin McKie, GMO Corn Set to Stop Man Spreading His Seed, London, The Observer, 9 September 2001.

Ibid. McKie writes, “The pregnancy prevention plants are the handiwork of the San Diego biotechnology company Epicyte, where researchers have discovered a rare class of human antibodies that attack sperm…the company has created tiny horticultural factories that make contraceptives…Essentially, the antibodies are attracted to surface receptors on the sperm,” said Hein. “They latch on and make each sperm so heavy it cannot move forward. It just shakes about as if it was doing the lambada.”

Ted Turner, cited along with youTube video of Turner in Aaron Dykes, Ted Turner: World Needs a 'Voluntary' One-Child Policy for the Next Hundred Years, Jones Report.com, April 29, 2008. Accessed in http://www.jonesreport.com/article/04_08/28turner_911.html

John Harlow, Billionaire club in bid to curb overpopulation, London, The Sunday Times
May 24, 2009. Accessed online in http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article6350303.ece.

Ibid.

United Nations Foundation, Women and Population Program, accessed in http://www.unfoundation.org/about-unf/experts/

By F. William Engdahl
www.engdahl.oilgeopolitics.net

*F. William Engdahl, author of Gods of Money: Wall Street and the Death of the American Century and Full Spectrum Dominance: Totalitarian Democracy in the New World Order (Third Millennium Press), may be reached via his website, www.engdahl.oilgeopolitics.net.

COPYRIGHT © 2010 F. William Engdahl. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED

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Comments

Walter Hain
06 Mar 10, 05:32
Reducing Mankind

Bill Gates are right! We should reduce the world population for reduce all the problems of mankind. I have since 1999 a site about this subject. From 1999 to 2009 mankind increase for 800 million people - and nothing was done against over population till today. Fames persons should appear in public against artificial fertilizations on people.

Walter Hain, 62

Science writer and book author


Paul
06 Mar 10, 15:42
overpopulation

A good starting point would be for the great religions of the world to admit that they really did just make it all up, and yes you can practice birth control without fear of upsetting any of the myriad sky fairys up there somewhere.


Nadeem_Walayat
06 Mar 10, 17:19
Virus

We will spread like a virus to consume the whole universe within 100 million years.


Lachy
07 Mar 10, 04:12
OOOOOOOOOOOOO scary

I think the point he is making is not that he wants vaccines to somehow reduce population, but that in general improved health and wellbeing leads to less reproduction since your lifespan is longer and you have better resources to take care of yourself instead of relying on your children. This can be seen clearly in any developed country; Japan and Europe have negative real growth in population (Europe only grows due to immigration) and they both have some of the best living standards and equalities of wealth.

The answer to the world's population problem is in better living standards.


PAULA
07 Mar 10, 14:15
Bill Gates , Vaccines & Overpopulation

The problems of mankind are not due to overpopulation, it is due to greed, selfishness, pride, and the worst is due to forgetting about who created life: god the father. God does exist. He will not tolerate much more. Look at the world: economy, earthquakes, etc. Man is destoying him self. God has provided for all but the greedy godless scientific ultimate rich believe in thier own power and entitlement to everything and believe that only they are the ones who should live.


Catherine
07 Mar 10, 23:57
Those who harm innocent people

The answer is for the greedy, godless, scientific, ultimate rich (and the rest of us) to repent. God really does care about you and all the innocent people in the developing countries. Pray! Especially the rosary. Search the internet for the "three days of darkness". God will protect His own.


Therese
08 Mar 10, 00:26
birth control

Some of the other things they do not tell people about the birthcontrol pill is how it increases breast cancer in younger and younger women besides other bad side effects; and how the urine from women who are using it gets into the waterways from sewage, and the estrogen is deforming and killing off the fish here in the United States and other countries.


Monique
08 Mar 10, 11:36
Overpopulation? Really? What is the true story?

If you TRULY want the truth concerning overpopulation. Read this website then decide who is telling the truth.

http://www.pop.org/


Dave
09 Mar 10, 08:24
A big myth

This is a big myth promoted by the condescending elitists and the greedy rich. The entire population of the earth could fit into the state of Texas with a population density lower than New York City. This leaves the rest of the planet to feed and provide for us. Human greed and short-sightedness are entirely to blame for our problems. Only a Godless view of our existence could construct or believe their agenda. We will be judged by our love for our fellow humans. To try to survive by the exclusion of the rights to exist for "those other people" will be fraught with peril.


Pat Holliday
11 Mar 10, 03:04
Bill Gates

It would be a great Idea if Bill Gates, Ted Turner and their friends would do us a favor and show us how important this really is... THEY SHOULD GO FIRST!

In hell their paper money will be worthless.


Paul
11 Mar 10, 15:33
Nuns?

Looks like Market Oracle is being spammed by Nuns here.


Chet Pino
23 Mar 10, 11:54
how much we'd get from north america?

seems to be good for re-zoning as bioharvesting region


luis
26 Apr 10, 22:06
God forgot to tell us to stop...

hmmm, If God has provided for all of us, he probably forgot that he should have made the world infinitely big, since I fail to understand how can we have resources and space for everyone if the resources are limited, and everyone means a lot more people every single day...


Steve
27 Apr 10, 22:31
Bill Gates vaccines

Noah was advised to 'replenish' the earth - not fill it!

We will soon enter a period where we are either destroyed, returned to the dark ages, enslaved, or perhaps after several cycles of destruction - manage to cope with our imperfect natures. Buy a farm in New Zealand as far away from the bulk of the ape descendants as possible.



05 Jun 10, 08:12
Gates

Good initiative by Gates Population is the biggest problem (& the root of all problems) in countries like India.


Ben
09 Aug 10, 10:18
Healthy populations stabilize.

Er, I would like to point out that what Mr. Gates is saying is that when societies are healthy their innate population growth nears zero. That is the MORE healthy a population is the FEWER children that are produced in that population of people. Its not new. Healthy populations normally reach a point of balance. Sensationalizing his statements is baseless fear mongering.


Shelby Moore
09 Aug 10, 17:53
Stabilization nonsense

Ben wrote:

"That is the MORE healthy a population is the FEWER children that are produced in that population of people. Its not new. Healthy populations normally reach a point of balance."

It is extremely sad (for them) that people believe such utter nonsense.

Because the mathematical fact is that there has never been and never will be a state-of-equilibrium (no change) in anything in nature. Nature operates in accordance with exponential functions, whether it be growth rates, decay rates, and even distributions (e.g. Bell Curve or Gaussian).

Those who believe in stability of markets or nature are whorEshipping an illusion and end up with massive suffering and murder:

http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article21738.html#comment93613

http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article21650.html#comment93586

http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article21538.html#comment93592

With respect to population, encouraging women to not be women and to become men (and encouraging men to become women! disgusting!) as we have done in the western culture, is an economic death spiral for the civilization and this will be proven as a hard fact soon. It is also a cultural death spiral that removes the love from the culture, and replaces it with drugs and other addictions (e.g. materialism, love of perfection, etc).

I think I read recently that there have been more abortions (murders!) in the west than have died in all wars combined, and I contributed to that. We have turned into a society that hates nature, hates family, hates children, and hates God. We have the illusion that we can control the future and do it better. An ugly punishment is coming. It is surely to be much worse than the holocaust. And we deserve it!


Christian L
16 Oct 10, 18:54
worlds population

This comment is directed to Walter Hain.

I agree that the worlds population is getting out of hand and causing many problems but how can it be OK to poison children from 3rd world countries? Does it not scare you that a person like Bill Gates is speaking publicly about stuff like this?

The same vaccines that the children in 3rd world countries get I ASSURE YOU are the same that your children will get. Bill Gates is rich and part of the elite. Him and all of the other elites alike want nothing more then to see the demise of the middle class and the poor.

I believe the best MORAL thing we can do is make people aware of over population and make them aware of how they can prevent it. Maybe this won't work but no matter what we do We cannot exterminate other humans as if they are animals.


Shelby Moore
17 Oct 10, 08:46
re: world's population

Christian L. wrote:

"...I agree that the worlds population is getting out of hand and causing many problems..."

That westerners believe such erroneous propaganda, is really sad. We need more people (more independent actors and possibilities), not less:

http://goldwetrust.up-with.com/knowledge-f9/book-ultimate-truth-chapter-6-math-proves-go-forth-multiply-t159-15.htm#3640

And the "problems" with energy are non-problems, but actually normal change that is part of the trend of the universe towards maximum possibilities (disorder, aka entropy), as dictated by the 2nd law of thermodynamics (discovered in 1856!):

http://goldwetrust.up-with.com/knowledge-f9/book-ultimate-truth-chapter-6-math-proves-go-forth-multiply-t159-15.htm#3748

The Malthusian propaganda (e.g. global warming, climate change, peak energy, etc) are lies promulgated by the mass media, which since 1980s has been concentrated into ownership by a few rich families such as Ted Turner, who is allegedly the financier of the Georgia Guidestones:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Georgia_Guidestones&oldid=390241904#Reactions

I have interpreted the symbolic meaning of those stone inscriptions:

http://goldwetrust.up-with.com/economics-f4/changing-world-order-t32-90.htm#3515

Consider the benefit of trusting nature and living in harmony with it, instead of thinking we can control the future (e.g. birth control pills at young age that turn our women into men). Let's stop the insanity.

What is causing the world's problems is mankind's love of debt and pooling decisions and resources, i.e. the fiat system. If you want to read everything I have wrote on this site so you can come up to speed on understanding the concept and math:

http://www.google.com/search?q=site:marketoracle.co.uk+Shelby+Moore

Cheers.


Shelby Moore
22 Oct 10, 08:17
hallucination

We are hallucinating if we think humans can destroy this planet earth:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGOBm2J4tn0

Do you know that Thatcher broke the coal unions using the Global Warming lie? That is why the UK funded that false science.


Shelby Moore
23 Oct 10, 12:04
NatGas (CNG) saves us

Venerable Rick Rule confirms:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCQ5ERKV9P8

What I had written:

http://goldwetrust.up-with.com/economics-f4/peak-oil-nonsense-t102-15.htm#3574


Bill Gates Drug Pusher
14 Feb 11, 22:32
Bill Gates

No, you all have missed his point. Bill Gates works for the drug companies now, and what he meant was that vaccines can be used to kill off a certain couple of billion people. In this way it leaves more resources he's so worried about the filthy rich elitist. You see what he is worried about is that the peon, filthy poor are using up too much water, & food and he's concerned there won't be enough. Already studies are using foods to put vaccines into to force certain infertility drugs into people. GMO foods and vaccines. With a diet like that, we will certainly all die sooner. Gates forgets to mention that vaccines have enough cancer causing chemicals, they will kill you also.


MIla
25 Feb 11, 20:06
true

I respect Bill Gates. He is right. We need reduce world's population. Overpopulated world would kill all humans early or late. Human population should be controlled. He is not racist, and he is rich because he is smart. He started Microsoft. I believe him. I am studying, believe me it is not easy to study need to have a lot of knowledge.


Shelby Moore
26 Feb 11, 03:53
who dies first?

Mila, since you agree with de-population, would you be willing to be de-populated?

Depopulation is only okay when it doesn't affect us. But the thing about social eugenics is that it always comes back to kill the ones who thought it wouldn't apply to them.

Besides population is not a problem at all. In fact, it is the declining birth rates that have further stressed the western economies.

We have 1000s of times more resources in this earth than we can ever hope to use. People have been predicting peak XXXX since there were were humans, and they have always been wrong. Did you hear about peak whale oil in late 1800s (home lighting oil)? But yet we still light our homes today.


Benny B
26 Feb 11, 17:56
de-populate?

Shelby as usual is right on....who wants to volunteer to de-populate?


Read Me
14 May 11, 15:58
rebuttal

The argument being made in this article is demanding that we look into the matter more and really do the research. The writer obviously took the time to research this topic and, personally, I don't find his conclusions to be all that incredible. If you know anything about history, society, and the financial system, this so-called fear mongering actually reveals a great deal of hubris in today's perceptions/assumptions. People who read this kind of stuff, mock it, and then copy and paste an alternative website really should look into the matter first before they open their mouths. I for one have read countless books and articles, looked at both sides, and have come to the conclusion that the Bill Gates = Eugenics equation is quite believable, no matter how much I would rather believe otherwise.


JR
05 Dec 11, 19:23
De-population

No one has to volunteer for de-population. You don't have to die or kill yourself for the world to de-populate. Come on people, does anyone on this forum have common sense?

If the world population is 7 billion, and every couple has one child only or none at all, the world population would decrease naturally over time.

Healthier populations produce less kids - FACT! Third world populations have many children for two primary reasons: children equal slightly greater wealth for a poor family because they provide labor (especially since your kids aren't going to college). And it is assumed that some of your children will die because of signifantly higher infant mortality rates.

Therefore, using historical statistics from around the world, you can do the simple math and come to the conclusion:

Healthier population with a better standard of living = less children/no growth.

Unhealthy population with poor standard of living = many children/high growth.

The fools of this world believe so much that ever rich man must be evil. "The super rich are the devil!" GET A GRIP! If you believe all this nonsense, then it just proves why you are not intelligent enough to understand the logistics of changing the world into an overall healthier place for everyone.


"Spirit of Shelby"
06 Dec 11, 08:23
growth is healthier

JR, "no growth" is not healthy.

The elite are using every means they can to talk the masses into eugenics in many forms, from birth control, vaccinations, GMO food, etc.

Millions of people die during economic collapse. Study what happened in USSR, Argentina, etc.. Dmitry Orlov experienced it:

http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2008/02/five-stages-of-collapse.html

China has an unsolvable demographic bankruptcy by 2030 because of their one-child policy.

http://www.google.com/search?q=china+demographic+time+bomb+2030

Much of Europe is demographically bankrupt now (unless they open to ASIAN immigration, not just uneducated from Africa).

http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article31904.html#comment131972

Children are needed to produce for the elderly. Societies with few children have mental health decline.

For example, I read recently that 20% of the people in the USA (any maybe western world) are on psychiatric medication (anti-depressants, etc). Then we put about 20% of the kids on ADD medication.

This planet can provide the resources for 1 trillion people.

What is lacking is investment, due to the routing (misalloction) of capital to consumption via widespread use of debt and saving in debt (a.k.a. bonds).

http://www.coolpage.com/commentary/economic/shelby/Understand%20Everything%20Fundamentally.html

No growth of population means no growth of the economy. It means decline and decay.

I live in the Philippines on 120 sqm lot in a 40 sqm house, walking distance from the beach. It is much healthier than living in the USA, because here I don't eat any processed food and I get sunshine (vitamen D) year round. Here I see many children, many smiles, natural life. Your image of the third world from what you on Children's International, is designed to make you feel proud of your unhealthy western lifestyle. The elite are in control of your mind via the mass media. I turned off the TV 10+ years ago and haven't watched it since.

There is so much land on this earth, we only use a small fraction. There is no lack of arable land either. Too many lies in the mass media as the elite want to control you. Junk science in the media too:

http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=3974

Do you realize the entire world's oil consumption is equivalent to continuous flow of a medium to smallish size river. Calculate it. I did.

Disclaimer: I think we about getting to the time where it will become dangerous to speak about such heresies against the mainstream indoctrination. Thus the post (but not this disclaimer) is just a joke. Don't believe anything you read in this post, nor any of the cited resources. We must all be good citizens and do alike. Everyone must wear pink underwear, no exceptions:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/14/joe-arpaio-tea-party-americans-for-prosperity_n_1093160.html

Cheers.


Al
08 Dec 11, 13:24
gates and Population Downsizing

To Walter Hain,

If this is what you believe about the earth's population, then WHY ARE YOU STILL HERE??? Why have you not practiced what you preach and go and be one of the first people to volunteer to give up your life for the greater good of the earth?? Funny how those who talk about how population must be downsized never talk about being part of that solution by volunteering to check out NOW. Hypocrites!!!


Bergitta
31 Jan 12, 09:55
Any infertility tips?

My husband and I have been trying for about 18 months now and we still have no baby. I don't want to do IVF or anything like that. I'd like to stay natural if I can.

Does anyone one know how you can increase your fertility or chances of conceiving?


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