Best of the Week
Most Popular
1. Gold vs Cash in a Financial Crisis - Richard_Mills
2.Current Stock Market Rally Similarities To 1999 - Chris_Vermeulen
3.America See You On The Dark Side Of The Moon - Part2 - James_Quinn
4.Stock Market Trend Forecast Outlook for 2020 - Nadeem_Walayat
5.Who Said Stock Market Traders and Investor are Emotional Right Now? - Chris_Vermeulen
6.Gold Upswing and Lessons from Gold Tops - P_Radomski_CFA
7.Economic Tribulation is Coming, and Here is Why - Michael_Pento
8.What to Expect in Our Next Recession/Depression? - Raymond_Matison
9.The Fed Celebrates While Americans Drown in Financial Despair - John_Mauldin
10.Hi-yo Silver Away! - Richard_Mills
Last 7 days
US and UK Coronavirus Trend Trajectories vs Bear Market and AI Stocks Sector - 30th Mar 20
Are Gold and Silver Mirroring 1999 to 2011 Again? - 30th Mar 20
Stock Market Next Cycle Low 7th April - 30th Mar 20
United States Coronavirus Infections and Deaths Trend Forecasts Into End April 2020 - 29th Mar 20
Some Positives in a Virus Wracked World - 29th Mar 20
Expert Tips to Save on Your Business’s Office Supply Purchases - 29th Mar 20
An Investment in Life - 29th Mar 20
Sheffield Coronavirus Pandemic Infections and Deaths Forecast - 29th Mar 20
UK Coronavirus Infections and Deaths Projections Trend Forecast - Video - 28th Mar 20
The Great Coronavirus Depression - Things Are Going to Change. Here’s What We Should Do - 28th Mar 20
One of the Biggest Stock Market Short Covering Rallies in History May Be Imminent - 28th Mar 20
The Fed, the Coronavirus and Investing - 28th Mar 20
Women’s Fashion Trends in the UK this 2020 - 28th Mar 20
The Last Minsky Financial Snowflake Has Fallen – What Now? - 28th Mar 20
UK Coronavirus Infections and Deaths Projections Trend Forecast Into End April 2020 - 28th Mar 20
DJIA Coronavirus Stock Market Technical Trend Analysis - 27th Mar 20
US and UK Case Fatality Rate Forecast for End April 2020 - 27th Mar 20
US Stock Market Upswing Meets Employment Data - 27th Mar 20
Will the Fed Going Nuclear Help the Economy and Gold? - 27th Mar 20
What you need to know about the impact of inflation - 27th Mar 20
CoronaVirus Herd Immunity, Flattening the Curve and Case Fatality Rate Analysis - 27th Mar 20
NHS Hospitals Before Coronavirus Tsunami Hits (Sheffield), STAY INDOORS FINAL WARNING! - 27th Mar 20
CoronaVirus Curve, Stock Market Crash, and Mortgage Massacre - 27th Mar 20
Finding an Expert Car Accident Lawyer - 27th Mar 20
We Are Facing a Depression, Not a Recession - 26th Mar 20
US Housing Real Estate Market Concern - 26th Mar 20
Covid-19 Pandemic Affecting Bitcoin - 26th Mar 20
Italy Coronavirus Case Fataility Rate and Infections Trend Analysis - 26th Mar 20
Why Is Online Gambling Becoming More Popular? - 26th Mar 20
Dark Pools of Capital Profiting from Coronavirus Stock Markets CRASH! - 26th Mar 20
CoronaVirus Herd Immunity and Flattening the Curve - 25th Mar 20
Coronavirus Lesson #1 for Investors: Beware Predictions of Stock Market Bottoms - 25th Mar 20
CoronaVirus Stock Market Trend Implications - 25th Mar 20
Pandemonium in Precious Metals Market as Fear Gives Way to Command Economy - 25th Mar 20
Pandemics and Gold - 25th Mar 20
UK Coronavirus Hotspots - Cities with Highest Risks of Getting Infected - 25th Mar 20
WARNING US Coronavirus Infections and Deaths Going Ballistic! - 24th Mar 20
Coronavirus Crisis - Weeks Where Decades Happen - 24th Mar 20
Industry Trends: Online Casinos & Online Slots Game Market Analysis - 24th Mar 20
Five Amazingly High-Tech Products Just on the Market that You Should Check Out - 24th Mar 20
UK Coronavirus WARNING - Infections Trend Trajectory Worse than Italy - 24th Mar 20
Rick Rule: 'A Different Phrase for Stocks Bear Market Is Sale' - 24th Mar 20
Stock Market Minor Cycle Bounce - 24th Mar 20
Gold’s century - While stocks dominated headlines, gold quietly performed - 24th Mar 20
Big Tech Is Now On The Offensive Against The Coronavirus - 24th Mar 20
Socialism at Its Finest after Fed’s Bazooka Fails - 24th Mar 20
Dark Pools of Capital Profiting from Coronavirus Stock and Financial Markets CRASH! - 23rd Mar 20
Will Trump’s Free Cash Help the Economy and Gold Market? - 23rd Mar 20
Coronavirus Clarifies Priorities - 23rd Mar 20
Could the Coronavirus Cause the Next ‘Arab Spring’? - 23rd Mar 20
Concerned About The US Real Estate Market? Us Too! - 23rd Mar 20
Gold Stocks Peak Bleak? - 22nd Mar 20
UK Supermarkets Coronavirus Panic Buying, Empty Tesco Shelves, Stock Piling, Hoarding Preppers - 22nd Mar 20
US Coronavirus Infections and Deaths Going Ballistic as Government Start to Ramp Up Testing - 21st Mar 20
Your Investment Portfolio for the Next Decade—Fix It with the “Anti-Stock” - 21st Mar 20
CORONA HOAX: This Is Almost Completely Contrived and Here’s Proof - 21st Mar 20
Gold-Silver Ratio Tops 100; Silver Headed For Sub-$10 - 21st Mar 20
Coronavirus - Don’t Ask, Don’t Test - 21st Mar 20
Napag and Napag Trading Best Petroleum & Crude Oil Company - 21st Mar 20
UK Coronavirus Infections Trend Trajectory Worse than Italy - Government PANICs! Sterling Crashes! - 20th Mar 20
UK Critical Care Nurse Cries at Empty SuperMarket Shelves, Coronavirus Panic Buying Stockpiling - 20th Mar 20
Coronavirus Is Not an Emergency. It’s a War - 20th Mar 20
Why You Should Invest in the $5 Gold Coin - 20th Mar 20
Four Key Stock Market Questions To This Coronavirus Crisis Everyone is Asking - 20th Mar 20
Gold to Silver Ratio’s Breakout – Like a Hot Knife Through Butter - 20th Mar 20
The Coronavirus Contraction - Only Cooperation Can Defeat Impending Global Crisis - 20th Mar 20
Is This What Peak Market Fear Looks Like? - 20th Mar 20
Alessandro De Dorides - Business Consultant - 20th Mar 20
Why a Second Depression is Possible but Not Likely - 20th Mar 20

Market Oracle FREE Newsletter


Baby Boomer Blindness, Forget Retirement

Politics / Pensions & Retirement Nov 21, 2011 - 04:59 AM GMT

By: Gary_North


Diamond Rated - Best Financial Markets Analysis Article"MarketWatch" ran an article on the attitudes of retired Americans ages 55 to 75. The title is accurate: "Retirees are confident, but workers can't retire." But the subtitle points to the problem facing these people: "Retirees' finances recover, but one-in-four workers plan to work until 80."

The article reports on two surveys. The first is a survey of over 1,500 retirees in 2008 and 2011. These people had $100,000 or more of investable assets in 2008. Age range: 55 to 75. Think about this. Some of these people had retired at age 55. This is surely not a normal segment of the population. Second, they had at least $100,000 to invest. Is this sample representative of retired Americans?

Figures from 2007 – the year before the recession hit in full force – indicate that the median net worth of households whose heads were 65 to 74 years old was $239,400. The word "median" refers to an average where half the sample population is above and half below. It gives a much better indication of the condition of the average Joe than the mean average, where the figure is the total wealth divided by the number of families in the sample.

This median net worth statistic included the equity in homes. To estimate investable capital, we must subtract the equity value of the homes from the total net worth figure. According to this chart on Wikipedia, the median sales price of a home in 2007 was $250,000.

Combining the two figures, at least for those home owners who had paid off their mortgages in 2007, the net investable capital of families headed by people 65 to 74 in 2007 was negative $11,000. This is an optimistic estimate. Not all people in this age group owned debt-free homes.

So, the survey of 1,500+ Americans with investable capital of $100,000 or more is so utterly unrepresentative of retired Americans that it should be considered a survey of attitudes of rich retirees.

The MarketWatch article did not mention any of this. It simply reported on the survey's findings. It began:

The financial crisis of 2008-09 hit retirees hard, but a majority of them now express confidence about their finances and have adopted more prudent spending habits, according to a survey that followed the same group of higher-income retirees from 2008 through 2011.

The recession did hit retirees, but it did not hit them all that hard. If a person did not own stocks, then the recession was not a game-changer. Yes, it popped the real estate bubble. According to the Wikipedia chart of home prices, the median home price in 2009 was the same as it had been in 2004. It had peaked in early 2007 at $250,000. So, the perception of declining wealth was there, but it was about 10%; $250,000 to $225,000. The #1 asset of the family was declining, but it did not decline as sharply as the stock market did.

For those families that had money in the stock market – maybe 20% of retirees – the perception of decline was much greater in 2009. But these people are not representative of most retired Americans. Again, the opinions of people with investable capital of over $100,000 are a curiosity suitable for "lifestyles of the rich but not famous."

The article contrasted these people – not representative of middle-class retirees – with middle-class workers.

Meanwhile, a separate survey of middle-class workers finds that 25% say they expect to work until they're 80, and three-fourths of those surveyed said they'll work for at least a portion of the traditional retirement years.

Let us consider the second survey's findings. About 25% of middle-class workers expect to work until age 80. This means that about 75% think they will face no serious problems at retirement.

Let us compare what we know about the net worth of families headed by people over age 65. They are in the hole financially: negative net worth. Their main asset – a home – continues to decline. There has been no rebound since 2009. There is no end in sight. There is not a trace of optimism regarding a great reversal and the return of the housing bubble. So, to the extent that these people had any hope of increasing their net worth through home price appreciation, their dream is shattered. Meanwhile, they are more than $11,000 in the hole. Their homes are down by $25,000. So, they are probably closer to $35,000 in the hole. They are still in debt, and their net worth is declining.

Nevertheless, three-quarters of those workers in the survey think "no problem." In other words, they have no more clue about what is going to hit them at age 62 – when most of them will opt for early Social Security payments – than the author of the article did, who neglected to look at the statistics for median net worth and median housing prices.


The article continued in this optimistic vein.

In the survey of retirees, 85% said they are very or somewhat confident they have enough savings to live comfortably throughout retirement, up from 79% who said that in 2009, and almost matching the 88% who said that in the spring of 2008, before the worst of the crisis hit.

They are more confident now. The stock market recovered. Housing prices are down, but people with $100,000 of investable capital are so rich that housing price declines do not threaten them. In other words, when you are part of the mean average rather than the median average, you are sitting pretty. You are aging. The clock is ticking. You think you will not run out of money before you run out of time. You may be right . . . if you have $300,000 of investable assets. If you are at the low end, you have a problem.

All this has nothing to do with Joe Ex-Lunchbucket, who has no investable capital and is $35,000 in debt, who is living in a depreciating consumer good. He has no job. His one asset is declining in value. This asset is in fact a money pit. He has to keep it in repair. As home-owners know, houses decline in the same way people decline. The older they are, the faster they decline.

The typical retired American today is in a no-win situation. His expenses are rising. It costs money to stay in his home, which is declining in value. He may wind up in a retirement facility that costs $4,000 a month – almost $50,000 a year. He can sell the house. The proceeds may last four years if he moves into a retirement home. Then what?

Consumer prices are rising slowly. His income isn't. He is in defensive mode. He has no hope of increasing his income unless he goes back to work. His skills are rusting rapidly. He cannot get back into his old job. He can be a Wal-Mart greeter. He can work in a fast-food restaurant, but oldsters rarely do.

In the face of this, we read a happy-face article on rich retirees, as if their newly recovered optimism means anything for the average retired American.

"These are people who had $100,000 or more in investable assets so they felt pretty secure before the recession," said Steven Siegel, a research actuary with the Society of Actuaries, a professional association based in Schaumburg, Ill. "The recession scared them," he said. "What they've done is made some adjustments and they're getting back to where they were."

Well, goodie for them. But the future that faces the middle-class workers whose opinions are revealed in the second survey is the future that has arrived for the family where the husband is age 65 to 74. It is a grinding future that is virtually guaranteed to bankrupt these people if the men live to age 80. The widows will live to 84. But they are several years younger than their husbands. Their money will have long since run out by age 84. Where will they live? That depends on the wealth of their children.

In all of this, there is a quiet assumption: the Medicare system will remain solvent. Also assumed: the U.S. government will be able to run $1.3 trillion annual deficits indefinitely. Another assumption: T-bill rates will remain at 0.1% indefinitely. These assumptions are statistically ludicrous for anyone who is still in the work place and is under 60 years old.

The bright spot in the survey: 46% of the retirees said they have no debt, up from 34% in 2008. At the other end of the debt spectrum, 11% said they have $100,000 or more in debt – but that, too, is down, from 15% who said they carried that much debt in 2008.

Wait a minute! Over half of these retirees are in debt. These wealthy retirees are still in IOU mode. Think of the masses in the median net worth range. How well are they doing? Where are their $100,000+ of investable assets? Missing in action. Back to the rich ones:

Younger retirees are much likelier to have debt: 61% of those aged 65 to 70 said they owe money, compared with 42% of those 71 and older. The survey did not specify what types of debt.

These people have debts. The interest rate they pay on their debt is eating them alive. Mortgage debt is deductible from gross income, but mortgage debt is less likely for people over age 65. So, their interest payments are worse: net losses. Their investment assets must produce income after taxes sufficient to pay off principal and interest. What investment assets might these be? Not stocks. Not bonds. Then what?

These people are consuming their capital. Every interest payment is a drain on their net worth. They are no longer in the workforce. They are sitting in a financial bathtub. They have removed the plug by being in debt. Their wealth is going down the drain, but the spigot is turned to a trickle.

The article says that, back in 2008, 38% of those surveyed said they bought whatever they want. In 2011, this was down to 26%. So, most of them say they are watching their spending. Talk is cheap. Interest payments aren't.

They are facing capital depletion. Remember, over half are still in debt, and way more in the under-70 group: 61% vs. 42%. Today, 44% say that Social Security and pension income combined are not sufficient to cover their basic living expenses. So, the spigot is not replacing the water flowing out of the tub.

These are better-off retirees. Think of the situation facing the average retired, ex-middle-class retiree. His outward appearance may be middle class. He lives in the same home. He wears the same clothes as he did when he was in the work force. But his car is aging, his home is aging, and he is aging.


First, 25% think they will work until 80. The older ones are more realistic. In the 40 to 59 age group, over half – 54% – say they will need to work. They are surely correct. But they must begin planning to do this now. They should not assume that they will be physically able to do this. They are getting older.

There is another consideration. The attrition process goes on in the world of business. Companies go bust. They also get bought up by larger firms. Owners of medium-size firms sell them to fund their retirements. The employees then face pink slips. The new owners bought the firms to cut costs and thereby profit from the investment. They fire workers who are no longer vital to the new, scaled-down operation.

There is little job security today. For mid-level salaried people over age 65, there never was. But now the corporate attrition process is an escalating threat. The person who sees his job as a post-64 safety net may be counting on a source of income that will be cut off without warning.

The laid-off salaried worker age 65 or more is in a terrible situation. The employers want young men who will work harder and cheaper. Unless the old-timers can keep up with the market's innovations, they will be paid ever-more than they are worth. The companies will want to get them off the payroll.

What are these people doing about this? Nothing much.

Sixty-nine percent of those surveyed don't have a written financial plan, and of those, 60% say it's because they are "overwhelmed," it's "pointless," or they are "too far behind to catch up."

They are correct. They are too far behind to catch up. So, they have only one option: to follow a plan to remain in their existing jobs. If they lose their existing jobs, they will fall off the edge of the precipice. They will find themselves competing with young workers and other fired workers.

Until now, the older workers left the job market. But the younger ones today see that this will not be possible. They will stay in the market.

So, here is their situation. They have no savings to speak of. Their houses are falling in price. The unemployment rate is 9%. The economy is flat-lining. The number of future competitors is increasing. The skills required just to stay even are getting more rigorous. Workers in India are able to compete in digital-based occupations. They work cheap. Price competition is increasing because of the Web. Profit margins are tightening.

For the mass of salaried employees, their careers are based on relatively passive order-taking and repetitive operations. Both of these are being replaced by computerized systems.

When the survey respondents were asked about their biggest retirement fear, 42% said "I can do all the right things today and it still won't be enough for tomorrow."

So, they think the system is rigged against them. They have lost hope. They did not perceive early in life that things do not take care of themselves. They counted on Social Security, but they never looked at the numbers. The article says that 37% said they have no fear because "it will work itself out." They have been saying this since age 18. They think the federal government will be there to make their golden years comfortable.

Then we read this: "29% of people in their 60s have saved less than $25,000 for retirement." This is the real world – not the world of those with $100,000 in investable capital.


The journalistic reports on retirement are upbeat. They appear in popular media that sell advertising space for "investing for retirement." They cater to the 20% who do have assets of over $100,000 to invest.

As it becomes clear to younger workers that the existing government-funded system is rigged against them, that the system really is a Ponzi scheme, they will revolt. They will vote for candidates who tell them that their futures are being sacrificed in the name of statistically doomed programs that will go bust when they retire. They will then vote in their own self-interest.

The two big welfare systems still find political support because those on the dole or close to it vote in their own self-interest. They vote in higher percentages than younger workers do. But, statistically speaking, they are in the minority. Those on the positive end of a Ponzi scheme always are. When the voters who pay the taxes finally realize that the Ponzi scheme really will go bust before they cash in, they will elect Congressmen who turn off the spigot in the financial bathtub.

Gary North [send him mail ] is the author of Mises on Money . Visit . He is also the author of a free 20-volume series, An Economic Commentary on the Bible .

© 2011 Copyright Gary North / - All Rights Reserved
Disclaimer: The above is a matter of opinion provided for general information purposes only and is not intended as investment advice. Information and analysis above are derived from sources and utilising methods believed to be reliable, but we cannot accept responsibility for any losses you may incur as a result of this analysis. Individuals should consult with their personal financial advisors.

© 2005-2019 - The Market Oracle is a FREE Daily Financial Markets Analysis & Forecasting online publication.

Post Comment

Only logged in users are allowed to post comments. Register/ Log in

6 Critical Money Making Rules