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Stock-Markets / UK Stock Market Sep 10, 2009 - 01:55 AM GMT

By: Nadeem_Walayat

Stock-Markets

Best Financial Markets Analysis ArticleThe FTSE 100 stock market index broke above 5,000 by closing at 5,004 for the first time since the financial collapse of September 2008.

Whilst the highly vocal public perma bears have frightened much of the investing public into sitting on the sidelines, too frightened to commit and leaving the smart money to accumulate at rock bottom prices, readers following my analysis of the stealth stocks bull market will have been left with little doubt of where I expected the market to head with first a clear target for the bear market bottom at the start of the year confirmed in March, and then the subsequent stealth bull market mapped out throughout 2009 as the following illustrate before I get to where I expect the FTSE is headed to next.


Whilst much of my analysis has been focused on the Dow Jones Index, however as I have stated several times over the year that the FTSE would closely track the DJIA in terms of market timing, but with a more positive trend advantage to the Dow Jones Index.

FTSE 100 Index Forecast (20th Jan 09 - FTSE 4091)

"The FTSE looks set to break below the previous low, however I expect the FTSE to outperform other indices with a minimum 35% move from the years low and finish Up on the year, my best estimate at this time is for the FTSE to trade at 4,600 or higher during December 2009. Also I am expecting that 2009 will mark the start of a multi-year bull market that will eventually make 2008-2009's price action appear as a mere minor blip, much as the 1987 crash appears on today's price charts."

Dow Jones Index Bottom? - 8th March 2009 - DJIA 6626, FTSE 3520

"Having now fulfilled the primary target of 6,600 the next phase of the strategy is therefore towards accumulating on buy price triggers in advance of what I consider will become a multi-year bull market, which appears contrary to many analysts."

Dow Jones Stealth Bull Market Born - 15th March 2009 - Dow 7224, FTSE 3,770

"As stated in last weekends analysis and newsletter , following the Dow's Friday close at 6626 that the Dow Jones Index had now fulfilled its bear market target of 6,600 as per the analysis of 20th Jan 2009 and illustrated by the chart below. The primary focus hence forth was to "position for a bullish spike higher" that would CONFIRM the bear market low, and negate the secondary far less probable overshoot target of 5,700 to 6000. This occurred on Tuesday which saw the first of a series of BUY TRIGGERS both on the Intra day charts and then on the Daily time frame chart that confirmed the preceding weeks Bear Market Low and set in motion the anticipated spike that took the Dow up 12% by the end of the week to close at 7,224. "

FTSE 100 Index Stealth Bull Market as Bear Market Bottoms at 3,460 - 17th March 2009 - FTSE 3860

Initial Bull Market Target 30% Advanced, revised during April Dow analysis to 50% for 2009 or FTSE 4995

More Recent Dow Analysis mapped out the trend for the Dow Jones Index as follows -

The stocks bull market continues to resolve towards the pattern I painted some 7 weeks ago - Vicious Stocks Stealth Bull Market Eats the Bears Alive!, What's Next?

CONCLUSION - My earlier fears about a bull trap appear to be unfounded, the stock chart is talking that we are in a stocks bull market, and is suggestive of a trend higher towards a 2009 target of between 9750 and 10,000, with a high probability that we may get there before the end of October!. Key danger areas for this scenario are a. for the trend line to contain corrections, and b. that 8080, MUST HOLD.

The last update of 3 weeks ago (Stocks Stealth Bull Market Crushes Bears Hopes Again) showed the trend resolving towards an earlier peak given the strength of wave 1 which implied a weaker waves 3 and 5.

The Price action to date has shown relative strength against the forecast of a month ago, this suggests a higher target than the original 9750 to 10K before the end of Oct 2009, the secondary stated target was 10,450. However it also suggests that the market may put in an earlier peak. I am still leaning towards the next correction AFTER the peak to be of greater significance than the last correction from June to July. Also, whilst my in depth economic analysis is on the UK economy, however much of the conclusions could equally be applied to other western economies, the analysis of February 2009 has been projecting towards a a DOUBLE DIP recession (updated June 09) which has negative implications for stocks during 2010, but for now DON'T be silly, don't fight the stocks bull market (time to drop the word stealth).

The Crumbliest Flakiest Stocks Bull Market Never Tasted Before - Sept 7th 2009

The target for the termination of the current phase of the bull market rally was between 9750 and 10,000. As mentioned above, I am not expecting an easy ride for the fifth wave as clearly it is an obvious pattern to interpret following waves 1,2,3,4. What does this mean ? Well wave 3 is screaming weakness, so that suggests a weak push higher rather than something that resembles wave 1.

The MACD is also signaling serious price weakness as there is clear divergence taking place between the rising trend and a falling MACD, very similar to the June peak.

Two possible outcomes -

a. That the fifth puts in a lower peak than the wave 3, which is significantly more bearish.

b. That we get some sideways drift (possible false break lower) before a sharp rally for a higher fifth into the target zone.

Despite the increasingly bearish technical indicators at this point I continue to march with the bull market and favour outcome b. ahead of a more serious correction that would first 1. target target the main support trendline and 2. 8900 Previous Peak.

FTSE 100 Index, Where Next?

The FTSE 100 index as originally anticipated at the start of the year is showing relative strength against the Dow Jones, this is most evident in the fact that the FTSE has achieved its price target for 2009 of 5,000 ahead of schedule by several weeks, whereas the Dow Jones remains several hundred points short of its target range of between 9,750 and 10,000.

The elliott wave pattern shows that the FTSE has broken above the wave 3 peak and is into its final fifth towards a new high which is ahead of schedule against a projected termination point for this rally of early October. What this suggests is that the FTSE could drift sideways for several weeks waiting for the DJIA to play catchup i.e. I see very limited upside remaining in the FTSE for the rest of this year!

In fact the FTSE is primed to undergo a serious correction the timing of which will be on alignment with other major global stock indices i.e. the DJIA.

Therefore I anticipate a much more difficult time for the FTSE for the rest of the year, i.e. Despite being a stocks bull, I would be surprised if the momentum of the past 2 months continues. More Probable is that the FTSE will undergo a serious correction towards a target of 4,500 to 4650 as indicated by the above chart.

In Summary, the FTSE 100 Index has FULLFILLED ITS 2009 Bull market Target of 5,000 and is primed for an IMMINENT SERIOUS CORRECTION, the only delay of which is in alignment with other global indices.

Your stock index trading analyst.

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By Nadeem Walayat
http://www.marketoracle.co.uk

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Nadeem Walayat has over 20 years experience of trading derivatives, portfolio management and analysing the financial markets, including one of few who both anticipated and Beat the 1987 Crash. Nadeem's forward looking analysis specialises on the housing market and interest rates. Nadeem is the Editor of The Market Oracle, a FREE Daily Financial Markets Analysis & Forecasting online publication. We present in-depth analysis from over 300 experienced analysts on a range of views of the probable direction of the financial markets. Thus enabling our readers to arrive at an informed opinion on future market direction. http://www.marketoracle.co.uk

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Comments

Angela Bayes
13 Sep 09, 20:47
Elliot Wave

Hi Nadeem,

I notice you are promoting Robert Prechter and Elliot wave Theory. I believe EW theriosts are expecting a major crash to new lows in the DOW and a severe correction in Gold. As you are promoting his book is this what you believe as well? As this seems to go against your prediction of continuing stealth bull market?


Nadeem_Walayat
14 Sep 09, 00:45
Stealth bull market

I do my own analysis as Prechter does his own.

My position is pretty clear, the analysis continues to resolve towards a major correction late Sept/ Early Oct, as long as the Dow holds above 20% from the high the bull market remains intact.

Since stocks bottomed in mid march they have been screaming bull market to me so that is what I have rode.

The future is unwritten, to say BEFORE a market has even topped that its going to crash is foolish in my opinion, as I have actually traded quite a few crashes and the only way to ride them is NOT antipate them but STICK to TECHNICAL TRIGGERS that YOU WILL ACT ON REGARDLESS of what SHOULD HAPPEN! That is the ONLY way to trade markets.

NOT TO SAY ITS GOING TO CRASH BEFORE ITS EVEN TOPPED !!!, As Prechter learend in 1994 ;)

In the end of the day the future is unwritten, and the only absolute is knowing that you cannot know everything that will impact on the price therefore the more one deviates from the present the more likely one will be wrong !

YES this is a BULL MARKET ! Because thats what the price chart keeps telling me ! Only a fool does NOT LISTEN to the price chart, if it tells me its going to become a BEAR MARKET then I will listen and let others know, but to say a crash is coming BEFORE its PEAKED is just foolish and NO WAY TO TRADE !

What will the EWAVERs do if the 'CRASH' fails to materialise ?

Quietly dust it under the carpet and rewrite history is what, afterall is that not what has transpired over Prechters Feb call ? Did anyone bother to check exactly what was said in feb and what it implied ?

No ?

Afterall covering shorts is not anticipating a 50% BULL RUN In SIX MONTHS !

A BIG DIFFERENCE !

Still the future is UNWRITTEN and maybe prechter will get this one right ;)


dom
16 Sep 09, 07:22
stocks bull market

Bull market will continue for a while longer and I think the BoE will cut rates again this year to 0.25%


Nadeem_Walayat
17 Sep 09, 01:57
interest rates

Market interest rates have already risen.

The base interest rate is irrelevant, it is being kept artificially low for political reasons i.e. the election. Still the next move in the base rate will be higher as a consquence of printing money, most probably in the MPC meeting just after the next election.


Alex Hartley
23 Sep 09, 04:45
S&P and FTSE Equity Markets

Hi Nadeem,

Is it still your belief that this current market rally in the S&P and other equity markets is coming to an end sooner rather than later i.e. late sept./ early oct and most likely at the 9750 - 10k dow level?

Or do you think it now likely we could see another push up to the 1123 level or in fact higher 1250 perhaps on the S&P which would hence most likely drag the FTSE higher as well.

Cheers,

Alex


Nadeem_Walayat
23 Sep 09, 12:59
FTSE Dow Targets Achieved

Both indices have entered the target zones for a top into a serious correction, I now await SELL TRIGGERs to be triggered to HEDGE my stocks portfolio

Best,

NW.


Dave
24 Sep 09, 13:41
Hedging

Nadeem,

For us novices, please could you explain what you mean by "hedging" your stocks portfolio. Is this selling a portion of your stocks? Is it going short on a particular market? And if you're confident the market is headed for a "serious correction," why not reverse your position on the sell triggers so that you hold most short positions?

I'm just trying to learn how to trade.

Thanks,

Dave


Nadeem_Walayat
24 Sep 09, 14:25
stocks portfolio

Hi

In addition to trading the stock indices for profit (both directions by reacting to price triggers), I also always keep in mind the implications of signfiicant contra trends on my long-term stocks portfolio, most of the time I would ride out dips in a bull market.

The point of hedging is to reduce the drop in the value of the portfolio rather than to seek to profit from the drop i.e. net, I would still be down on overall valuation of the hedged portfolio if the market plunges but not as much as if I had not hedged it at all.

I hold stocks based on fundementals of the companies and rarely sell stocks for technical (chart reasons).

I also hedge large stock holdings such as RDS via shortign the stock futures if there is a sector or stock specific issues i.e. oil prices.


dave
03 Oct 09, 12:48
retracements

The bull retraced 38% fibonacci of the 20 month decline from 2007 into march 2009 so far, normal to pivot here and pullback, not normal to peak here. I look for the DOW to continue higher to 10,400, the 50% retracement and gap fill. Then we get a 2000 point DOW correction, a bear trap.

Thats just me

Dave


steven
03 Oct 09, 23:09
Here Starts a Modest Bear Rally

My first target of 7700 for Dow starts from Mon.

NO more Upside prevails in the intermediary term.

So all Longs can close your profit side and take a ride for a healthy bear rally.

Good luck and enjoy trading.


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