Best of the Week
Most Popular
1.Bitcoin War Begins – Bitcoin Cash Rises 50% While Bitcoin Drops $1,000 In 24 Hours - Jeff_Berwick
2.Fragile Stock Market Bull in a China Shop -James_Quinn
3.Sheffield Leafy Suburbs Tree Felling's Triggering House Prices CRASH! - Nadeem_Walayat
4.Bank of England Hikes UK Interest Rates 100%, Reversing BREXIT PANIC Cut! - Nadeem_Walayat
5.Government Finances and Gold - Cautionary Tale told in Four Charts - Michael_J_Kosares
6.Gold Stocks Winter Rally - Zeal_LLC
7.The Stock Market- From Here to Infinity? - Plunger
8.Ethereum (ETH/USD) – bullish breakout of large symmetrical triangle looks to be getting closer - MarketsToday
9.Electronic Gold: The Deep State’s Corrupt Threat to Human Prosperity and Freedom - Stewart_Dougherty
10.Finally, The Fall Of The House Of Saud - Jim_Willie_CB
Last 7 days
The Dow Gold Ratio - 11th Dec 17
Evidence of a Stock Market Top Mounting - 10th Dec 17
Bitcoin Doesn’t Exist – Forks and Mad Max - 10th Dec 17
Bitcoin Doesn’t Exist – Putting the Banks Out of Business - 9th Dec 17
China’s Struggle for Market Economy Status - 9th Dec 17
Is Gold Really Strong? - 9th Dec 17
Bitcoin Parabolic Mania - 8th Dec 17
SPX Make a 61.8% Retracement - 8th Dec 17
Gold, Stocks and Bonds - The 3 Amigos Update - 8th Dec 17
Gold Stocks Break, Gold to Follow - 8th Dec 17
4 Charts That Show How Trump Tax Cuts Will Trigger A Recession - 8th Dec 17
Precious Metals Breaking Down! 3 Amigos to Abort? 4 Horsemen to Ride? - 7th Dec 17
Bitcoin Just Smashed Through $12k… Wait, $13k… Now $14k… This Is Getting Ridiculous! - 7th Dec 17
Stock Market Tops Look Like This - 7th Dec 17
Crude Oil, Oil Stocks and Invalidation of Breakouts - 7th Dec 17
Bitcoin Doesn’t Exist – 2 - 7th Dec 17
British Pound Sterling Volatility In Crucial Week of Brexit Talk - 6th Dec 17
Day Trading vs Swing Trading: Which One is the Better Strategy? - 6th Dec 17
Crude Oil and Negative Divergences - 6th Dec 17
EU Bailins Coming – 114 Italian Banks Have NP Loans Exceeding Tangible Assets - 6th Dec 17
Bitcoin Doesn’t Exist - 5th Dec 17
Advantages of Car Insurance to Protect a Vehicle - 5th Dec 17
How High Will Gold Go? - 5th Dec 17
The Loonie Takes Flight -- BUT a "Labor Miracle" is NOT the Reason Why - 5th Dec 17
The True Meaning of Bitcoin's 'Success' - 5th Dec 17
Gerald Celente: Middle East Wild Cards Could Bring Down Markets, Drive Up Gold - 5th Dec 17
Silver’s Positive Fundamentals Due To Strong Demand In Key Growth Industries - 4th Dec 17
Stock Market Positive Expectations, But Will S&P 500 Continue Higher? - 4th Dec 17
Bitcoin Achieved What The Gold Market Never Could & Never Will? - 4th Dec 17
Stock Market Top Distribution Starting - 4th Dec 17
Understanding Real Time Forex Trading - 4th Dec 17

Market Oracle FREE Newsletter

Traders Workshop

Trend Capture in Commodity Trading

Commodities / Commodities Trading Dec 29, 2009 - 03:38 AM GMT

By: Andrew_Abraham

Commodities

You do not hear that often the word trend capture in commodity trading. Most of the time it is called Trend following. The difference however depending on how the commodity trader or commodity trading advisor trades there are times big draw downs occur as well as big profits are given back in trend following. However this has to be a given in trend following. One makes his money only by capturing those rare big trends. Many times the commodity trader gets whipped around.


Trend capture is an idea that myself and my partners have been involved with our constant testing. The idea is we take pieces out of the trend. If the trend is very strong we get lucky and take bigger bites out of the trend. We are trend following however we are not willing to go through large draw downs ( as best as we can) as well as we look to lock in profits when available. We attempt to do this through groups of filters that we have tested over the years. We have learned there is no magic system and that only groups of systems with strong risk management can assist us in our goal of trend capture.

We look at the various measurements of risk and reward. We look at average winners, average losers, returns and draw-downs. We examine the numbers further to calculate Kelly Expectations (bet size), MAR Ratios and Monte Carlo distributions. These are the tools that help us understand the model ( not just one system). The fact is that no matter how many numbers we crunch we cannot replace randomness with systematic probability. We can not quantify the future. This is the reason we are so focused on risk. We look to mitigate some of the draw downs…but they are always out there.

When you trade commodities trade with a plan and the discipline and patience to follow it!

Andrew Abraham
www.myinvestorsplace.com

Andrew Abraham has been in the financial arena since 1990. He is a commodity trading advisor and co manager of a Commodity Pool. Since 1993 Andrew has been a proponent of quantitative mechanical trading programs. Andrew's major concern is not only total return on investment but rather the amount of risk that one would have to tolerate in order to achieve returns He focuses on developing quant models that encompass strict risk adherence and correlation. He has been a speaker at conferences as well as an author of numerous articles. Andrew has spent years researching ideas that have the potential to outperform indices as well as maintain fewer draw downs.

Visit Angus Jackson Partners (http://www.angusjacksonpartners.com) Contact: A.Abraham@AngusJackson.com (mailto:A.Abraham@AngusJackson.com)

© 2009 Copyright Andrew Abraham - All Rights Reserved
Disclaimer: The above is a matter of opinion provided for general information purposes only and is not intended as investment advice. Information and analysis above are derived from sources and utilising methods believed to be reliable, but we cannot accept responsibility for any losses you may incur as a result of this analysis. Individuals should consult with their personal financial advisors.


© 2005-2018 http://www.MarketOracle.co.uk - The Market Oracle is a FREE Daily Financial Markets Analysis & Forecasting online publication.


Post Comment

Only logged in users are allowed to post comments. Register/ Log in

Catching a Falling Financial Knife