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Ireland Bailout Consequences for Britain, Portugal Next? Stock Market Correction Over?

Economics / Credit Crisis Bailouts Nov 22, 2010 - 12:18 AM GMT

By: Nadeem_Walayat


Diamond Rated - Best Financial Markets Analysis ArticleIreland's Government drops the mantra of no bailout by finally coming clean to the Irish public that a multi-billion Euro bailout has been agreed ahead of markets opening on Monday. Many Irish citizens will be angry that they have been repeatedly lied to as a series of senior government politician's have stepped forward these past few weeks to make announcements that Ireland was not seeking a bailout when the facts where the complete opposite as an accelerating bank run was under way on Irish banks, with depositors having already pulled out an estimated Euro 25 billion.

Emerging Bailout Details

The key bailout test was whether or not Ireland would retain its 12.5% Corporation Tax, which has attracted a number of giant multi-nationals to relocate to Ireland such as Google, Pfizer and Microsoft, much to the annoyance of other European countries, and especially France and Germany who had this at the top of their conditions hit list. The fact that Ireland has apparently retained sovereignty over corporation tax bodes well for eventual economic recovery as the relocated multi-nationals account for more than 70% of Irelands exports and generate more than 50% in corporation tax revenues, without which Ireland truly would be bust for the next decade.

However whilst Ireland can claim victory on capital gains tax, it did pay a heavy price elsewhere as it effectively handed over economic sovereignty to the ECB for at least the next 3 years.

  • E.U. financing of Irish government deficit for the next 3 years (Euro 40 billion).
  • International Bond Markets effectively closed to Ireland for the next 3 years.
  • Ireland's bankrupt banks to be fully nationalised (re-capitalisation) then broken up (Euro 50 billion).
  • Ireland to enact further tax rises and spending cuts aimed at reducing the budget deficit to 3% of GDP by 2014.

Ultimately much of the bailouts debt will have to be inflated away by higher Eurozone inflation(stealth debt default), especially as other PIIGS are also lining up for a bailout, coupled with restructuring of Irish banks debts (outright debt default).

Bailout was Inevitable

The Irish are trying hard to put up a brave face on the loss of sovereignty (as will soon will Portugal and Spain ) that they really don't need a bailout, however as I pointed out earlier in the week(18 Nov 2010 - Ireland Bailout Imminent, Press Euro-zone Breakup Speculation, Germany Leaving the Euro?) the Governor of Irelands Central bank, Patrick Honohan gave the game away with his statement:

"There will be a large loan because the purpose of the amount to be advanced, or to be made available, is to show Ireland has sufficient firepower to deal with any concerns of the market, so we're ’re talking about a substantial loan, tens of billions, yes."

The Euro, stocks, bonds and commodity markets leapt higher on the comments, by all bouncing higher off their recent lows in anticipation of a Euros 80-100 billion bailout inline with my going analysis that given's Irelands bankrupt banks bankrupting Ireland, a bailout of Ireland is inevitable (14 Nov 2010 - Bankrupting Ireland in Economic Depression Announces Policy of Quantitative Cheesing)

Bottom Line: Where Ireland is concerned, the E.U. will do its best to delay the inevitable debt default, which means a Eurozone bailout (one of a series) is imminent, because if one of the PIIGS defaults then so will they all which would require the mentioned Euro 2 trillion QE bailout virtually immediately (a Euro 750 billion bailout fund was announced in May), rather than perhaps Euros 80 billion for Ireland on its own at this stage of the crisis, and after Ireland will soon follow Portugal, then Spain, then Italy before the bailout cycle returns once more for another Greece bailout (probably sooner rather than later). All of which feed the Inflation mega-trend across the Euro-zone.

The press has been full of commentary of a bailout for Ireland as news, when it has been an INEVITABLE eventuality given the fundamentals (13 Apr 2010 - Britain's Accelerating Trend Towards High Inflation and UK Debt Default Bankruptcy ) (Graph now needs updating following developments of the past 8 months).

Whilst the mainstream press these past two months has been obsessed with the Greek debt crisis, the above graph clearly illustrates that a far larger debt crisis looms in Ireland that could soon transplant Greece in the debt crisis headlines over the coming months, similarly a number of other Euro Zone countries head the risk towards bankruptcy league table with Belgium and Portugal not far behind Greece. The price that these countries pay for being stuck in the Euro single currency is that they cannot devalue to try and gain some competitive advantage for their economies and therefore try and grow and inflate their way out of a high debt burden that stifles economic activity.

The bailout has been on the card not just for the last few weeks or even the whole of 2010, but a bailout of Ireland has been on the cards since it first bailed out its three big bankrupt banks back in late 2008. Ireland had only managed to DELAY the INEVITABLE purely as a consequence of being IN the Eurozone which allowed Ireland to borrow at very low interest rates and without suffering an inflationary currency collapse that hit Iceland hard when its banks blew up in September 2008 and the money markets completely froze to financing of both Icelandic banks and the state which required an immediate E.U./ IMF bailout just to keep Iceland's economy ticking over on life support.

So whilst an angry Irish population may blame the Euro-zone / ECB, need to realise the facts that the Eurozone has saved Ireland from a far worse economic catastrophe Iceland style and therefore if they need someone to blame they first need to look at their banks which have been haemorrhaging deposits to the tune of Euro 25 billions over the past few weeks, and then at their lying politicians and finally in the mirror at themselves for ratcheting up personal debts on the basis of cheap Euro-zone cash, where the Irish state and banks were able to borrow as though it were Germany but without any of the regulatory framework, discipline or deep financial pockets that Germany has.

The markets have immediately reacted strongly to the news by bouncing higher in asia, as some uncertainty has now been removed from the market place, though there is plenty of room for more market / eurozone wobbles especially as Portugal which is in an even worse state than Ireland teeters on the brink of a bailout, with Spain not far behind.

I highlighted possible solutions in an earlier article (14 Nov 2010 - Bankrupting Ireland in Economic Depression Announces Policy of Quantitative Cheesing), which boil down to stealth default by inflation and bank debts restructuring (overt default). Therefore the bailout (loan) just continues to delay the inevitable as it makes Irelands debt situation far worse, as another Euro's 100 billion of debt has been piled onto Irelands already huge debt mountain that Ireland can NEVER REPAY in real terms.

The Euro-zone needs to develop mechanisms that allows member countries to go bankrupt in a more orderly manner without impacting on the rest of the Eurozone, this would make the Euro currency FAR stronger, and make future debt crisis events more localised to small economies such as Greece, Ireland and Portugal. Off course first the European regulators need to extract their bankrupting banks from the bankrupting PIIGS. It is a very messy situation, where financially immature nations were wrapped in the persona of the Euro, enabling their banks to virtually borrow unlimited amounts of money at ultra low interest rates.

Ireland / PIIGS Debt Crisis Consequences for Britain

Whilst the mainstream press's immediate focus is on the estimated Euro 7 billions that Britain will contribute towards Irelands 80-90 billion bailout. However the real costs to Britain of Irelands and the other PIIGS debt crisis is far larger and most directly visible in an estimated 1/2 million rise in UK unemployment over the next 2-3 years, as I voiced in Julys UK Unemployment forecast (01 Jul 2010 - UK Unemployment Forecast 2010 to 2015):

UK unemployment looks set to remain on an upward trajectory for the next 3 years, after which it should feel the effects of the election boom. However against these positives there will be the impact of European Migrant workers that could take up as much as 70% of the new jobs created, which suggests that even if the government is able to create its forecast 2.5 million jobs (which I doubt), then at least 60% of these jobs will go to migrant workers, leaving less than 1 million new UK jobs for British citizens. This does not paint a very rosy picture for the governments expectations for UK unemployment to fall to below 2 million.

At least a 1/2 million flood of highly able and motivated workers from the bankrupting PIIGS to seek and find work in Britain ensures that the Governments expectations for UK unemployment to fall below 2 million is not going to be realised. Instead UK unemployment now has a greater probability of reaching as high as 3 million over the next 2-3 years as illustrated by the original forecast graph.

The inability to combat rising unemployment will put Britain's finances under further strain despite all of the announced austerity measures as on average it takes approximately 4 tax payers to support each unemployed worker, so tax revenues from 500,000 migrant workers will not to any extent be able to cover the costs of unemployment rising by 1/2 million, so despite a growing economy, the workers of Britain will feel even less secure over the coming years than they did at any point during the Great Recession. The ultimate cost to Britain of 1 million extra unemployed (against government expectations) in large part as a consequence of migrant workers is estimated at £40 billion / Euros 48 billion over the next 3 years.

The Key Lessons From Ireland's Banking Crisis Are NOT Being Learned

The key lesson from Ireland is BIG BANKS Should be BROKEN UP!, Irelands THREE big banks have bankrupted the nation which collectively have liabilities at over 200% of Irelands GDP. NO lessons have been learned in Britain either, as on the one hand there is the giant bailed out Lloyds / HBOS monster and on the other hand the UK regulator has let Spain's Santandar run amok by gobbling up half a dozen small to medium sized banks. Which means more liabilities dumped onto UK tax payers when Spanish banks send Spain over the edge of the cliff!

David Cameron's government is increasingly one of smoke and mirrors as I wrote earlier in the month (11 Nov 2010 - Is David Cameron a Socialist? Time for a Tea Party for Britain ? ). There is no sign that the Conservatives will do ANYTHING to prevent another financial crisis by breaking up the power of the big banks by ensuring that retail banks cannot become too large or be allowed to play in the global derivatives casino.

Portugal Next ?

Ireland's Euro 90 billion bailout follows Greece's 110 billion. The bond markets are suggesting that next is Portugal that is seeing its 10 year bond yields rise to 6.75%. The debt problem with Portugal is not as a consequence of a bankrupt banking sector but that the Portuguese economy is highly uncompetitive, and badly managed that in reality should never have been accepted as part of the Euro-zone along the same lines as Greece, as unlike Ireland there is no solution to Portugal's debt and deficits. However the good news is that a bailout of Portugal 'should' be far less costly, perhaps Euro 40 billion over the next 3 years.

However after Portugal comes the really big problem economies of first Spain and then Italy.

UK CPI Inflation Rises to 3.2% as the Inflation Mega-trend Continues

The inflation mega-trend continues to manifest itself as UK CPI nudged higher to 3.2% for October from 3.1%, whilst the Bank of England continued with its deflation threat propaganda so as to prevent a wage price spiral from taking hold. Whilst the highly doctored CPI came in at 3.2%, the more recognised RPI came in at 4.5% with real UK inflation still at a high 6% as illustrated by the below graph.

The CPI inflation trend is inline with forecast expectations as of December 2009 (27th December 2009 (UK CPI Inflation Forecast 2010, Imminent and Sustained Spike Above 3%)

The Deflation Delusion Money Printing Cycle

Deflationists continue to play the pick and choose game so as to pretend they understand what is going on whilst the Inflation mega-trend passes them by (18 Nov 2009 - Deflationists Are WRONG, Prepare for the INFLATION Mega-Trend ) . One of the tricks utilised is to focus on core inflation that excludes food and energy costs, as if to imply that people have stopped eating and warming themselves therefore energy and food prices do not matter anymore, off course the reason they are being ignored is because they have risen sharply, and hence people do not have any money left over to BUY core inflation items and hence WHY core inflation is LOW and so the cycle repeats where the central banks focus on core inflation to imply deflation, use it as an excuse to PRINT MONEY which forces UP food and energy prices that acts as a TAX on consumption of core inflation items and off the central bankers run again on their self induced perpetual money printing deflation risk cycle! All central banks are engaged in the same money printing because of deflation threat game that benefits the big banks.

I can imagine a day will come when the government starts to advocate that inflation indexation should be inline with Core CPI to further enhance the stealth real inflation fraud. For more on the Inflation Mega-trend and Deflation Delusion download the FREE Inflation Mega-Trend Ebook.

The following excellent video explains how Fed deflation propaganda is used to convince the masses that printing money is good, which is then funneled to Goldman Sachs and other Wall Street Bankster's.

Apparently according to the Ben Bernank, the secret to growing economies is by printing money and having fake inflation and unemployment statistics, as long as the banks profit he is all smiles.

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Stock Market Quick Update

Last weeks analysis concluded in a continuing down trend as of the 11,380 trigger to target a low of 10,950 for a relatively mild correction (15 Nov 2010 - Bank of England Inflation Propaganda Suggests Invisible Depression, Bankrupting Ireland Seeks Bailout ). The Dow put in a low of 10,979 before rallying and closing on the week at 11,203.

The big picture trend in line with the last in depth analysis (18 Oct 2010 - Stocks Stealth Bull Market Dow Trend Forecast into Jan 2011) is for a correction into Mid November to resolve into a rally that targets Dow 12k by Mid Jan 2011. Therefore the stock market has now entered the time window for the rally to 12k. The last Dow close of 11,203, puts the index about 300 points above its forecast trend by this point in time which suggests to me a volatile sideways to downtrend price action over the coming week that risks breaking the 10,976 low after Monday's bullish reaction to Ireland's Bailout.

How long has the Stocks Bull Market left to run ?

It is hard enough to see a couple of months forward, hence the in-depth analysis every couple of months or so. I still see the stocks indices such as the Dow targeting new all time highs, time wise, I am getting the impression that we could have passed the mid-way point, which suggests a 1 to 1-1/2 years to go before we have a bear market (of sorts), by which time time the perma bears will have thrown in the towel and turned into bulls or attempt to rewrite history and state that they called the 2012 stock market peak whilst having called virtually every correction as the end of the bull market for the preceding 2-3 years! Just as they did during previous bull market that peaked in 2007!

How Bad Could the Bear market be?

Now I really am gazing into the a fuzzy distant future by contemplating this question. The stock market is in an inflationary growth spiral, therefore the next bear market will be CORRECTING the current bull market and thus will NOT be the likes of 2008-2009. It is way too early but I can guesstimate a 50% retracement of the whole bull market over 1/3rd of the time. But lets enjoy riding and profiting from the STEALTH bull market first before we start worrying about the next 'corrective' bear market.

Gold, Silver, Oil Quick Comment - Since many markets are highly correlated to stocks at this moment in time, gold, silver, and oil could also experience a volatile downtrend during the week after Monday's bailout bounce.

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24 Nov 10, 05:05
USD/Gold/Silver/ Commod's


USD Index has near kissed your upside target yet precious metals, commodities, and associated shares have pretty much held the line which on face values seems impressive.

Could it be entirely down to the North Korea situation having skewed matters some? I’m confused, not sure.

Comments appreciated if you have any.


Ps. I see Rosen has come out with another round of hokum on your site. There’s definitely a smell of rank dead fish surrounding that alias methinks. Motive? I dunno!

24 Nov 10, 05:54
Stocks gold silver

The primary factor is that stocks, gold and silver are ALL in a bull market that has a lot further to run

If you keep this fact in the back of your mind then you know that day to day girations in the markets or most of the stuff like North Korea, is mostly just noise.

Stocks are trending inline with my expectations for an oscilation around the forecast trend.

Gold silver, I don't track too closely (unless extremely overbought or oversold) as they are in a bull market, i.e. I have $2000 penciled in for gold.



26 Nov 10, 08:15


First of all, I would like to say thanks for your great analysis.

As predicted, a volatile market this week with a low getting close to 10,976 and after hours trading just pushing over 11,200 yesterday. This morning, after hours is back down to under 11,100, but are we going to see another pull back to closer to 11,000 when the market opens? Also, it's the end of the month next week, so do you think it's likely to remain choppy into next week?


26 Nov 10, 08:35
Dow Today


Expectations were for a sideways to downtrend this week that risked breaking 10,976. The Dow is showing relative strength which suggests that the downside is limited, therefore probability favours the Dow remaining in the range 11,200 to 11,000 i.e. not much change from current 11,100.

Next week ?

I will come back to this during the weekend and post a short comment.



30 Nov 10, 11:17
Dow and eurozone debt concerns

Hi Nadeem,

The eurozone debt concerns seem to be accelerating with the Bank of Portugal today warning of an unbearable financial sector as government bonds continue to rise.

I just wondered what your thoughts are for the Dow for the remainder of this week? Has this changed anything regarding your expectations for December and a target of 12000+ in Jan?


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