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Stock Market Probing Short-term Bottom in a Long-term Bear Market

Stock-Markets / Stocks Bear Market Oct 19, 2008 - 06:36 PM GMT

By: Andre_Gratian

Stock-Markets Best Financial Markets Analysis ArticleCurrent Position of the Market
Long-term trend - Down! The very-long-term cycles have taken over earlier than anticipated and if they make their lows when expected, the bear market which started in October 2007 should continue until 2012-2014.

SPX: Intermediate trend - Look for a low in early to mid-October, with a possible extension to November as the best possibility for the end of the first phase of the bear market.

Analysis of the short-term trend is done on a daily basis with the help of hourly charts. It is an important adjunct to the analysis of daily and weekly charts which discusses the course of longer market trends.

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Since October 1st, the SPX lost 319 points before rebounding, and the Dow industrials almost 3000 points. In the past week, large daily swings have taken place with no follow through in either direction.

Have we found a low? Definitely not for the long term since, according to the long-term cycles, this bear market still has several years to go and is prognosticating a deep and prolonged recession. Incidentally, there was a typo in the last newsletter. Reference was made to the 100 year cycle bottoming in 2012-14. It should have read the 120-year cycle.

The short-term and the intermediate-term trends are still undecided, but many signs point to the necessity for one more low, at least in the latter, and perhaps in the former as well. Next week would be a possibility for a final (short-term) low. The other would be in November.

The massive amount of money injected into the system by the Federal Reserve and the Treasury, as well as the positive steps taken by many governments around the world, may be beginning to have an effect. The Ted spread has declined about a point to 3.63 in the last week, but is still considerably above its normal reading of 1.00 or less. This shows that credit may be starting to loosen and this should begin to restore confidence. After forced liquidations have ceased or diminished, the market should be in a position to recover some of its losses.

What's ahead?

Chart pattern and momentum:

The channel shown here with the brown trend lines probably best represents the intermediateterm trend. Overcoming the top trend line is going to require a lot of preliminary work.

On 10/10, the SPX went to the bottom of the channel and rebounded. So far, the only down trend line which has been overcome is the steepest one (green channel). It has challenged the black trend line on its first rally, and was pushed back. On its second challenge, which came on Friday, it was pushed back again. The next challenge should be able to make it through. This is why next week is a very important week.

The A/D oscillator has already pushed out of its channel line, and the MSO is on the verge of doing so. If we start up on Monday morning and close positive, we will most likely trigger a short-term buy signal. If we have a down day instead, there is a good chance that we could see a new low.

Triggering a short-term buy signal would defer new lows until later in October, or November.


I held on as long as I could to the idea that the 6-yr cycle would only provide an intermediate low, but that was not to be. The 120-yr cycle is already exerting tremendous down pressure and causing massive economic chaos. Since it is not due to make its low until 2012-14, I don't look forward to the prospect of what lies ahead for the world's economies. I hope sincerely that we have the wisdom and the means to prevent a depression.

There won't be a decennial pattern in which the stock market makes its high in the 9th or 10th year of the decade this time, although, some sort of an intermediate rally into that time frame is possible before the final plunge to the long-term lows.

The next cycle of importance is the 9-mo cycle which is due in mid-November, and this would seem the best timing for the next low in the stock market, if we have not made some serious upside progress before then. However, we should be aware that this cycle's phase is not that regular and can vary in length by a couple of weeks.

The 20-wk cycle has probably already bottomed and should not be a factor.

The next minor cycle is due to make its low about 10/22


The volatility of the market is resulting in many projections, as levels are broken both up and down. I'll just mention a few.

On Friday, the SPX reached a short-term projection and pulled-back to 941. If it breaks below 940, it will trigger a projection to about 920. That level must hold or we could keep on going to make new lows.

Breaking below 890, could take it to 845, and perhaps 805.

If 940 holds and we rise above 983, the next target would take the index above 1000 again.


By dropping to a new low, the NYSE Summation Index (below, courtesy of StockCharts) is telling us that we probably have lower to go, even for a bottom of intermediate nature. But by being so oversold, it is also signaling that we are close to a reversal.

The daily A/D oscillator in the SPX chart above is showing some good divergence to the price indicator, and it has already come outside of its down-channel. If the momentum oscillator joins it, we will have a short-term buy signal.

One should note that the A/D closed positive on Friday while the market was down. This is a form of positive divergence and may be meaningful for Monday's trend.

Market Leaders and Sentiment

The sentiment indicator (courtesy Sentiment Trader) is very bullish intermediate term and moderately bullish short term.

Another sign that we are at or approaching an important low: The NDX is beginning to outperform the SPX on a relative basis.


The decline of the past two weeks is confirming that we have started a bear market which is likely to continue for several more years.

The SPX is probing for a bottom, but structure strongly suggests that one more low is needed before we can have a rally that will last several weeks instead of the one or two-day rebounds that have been taken place recently.

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